Near Death Experiences and the Nature of Consciousness
Interview By Brandi Fleck
Masati shares three near-death experiences and explains how they transformed his understanding of consciousness, human potential, healing, and the nature of reality.
What can a near-death experience teach us about consciousness?
For Masati, that question isn't theoretical.
After surviving three separate near-death experiences spanning more than four decades, he believes he gained firsthand insight into consciousness beyond the body, the nature of reality, human potential, and what becomes possible when we stop identifying with our limitations.
In this episode of Human Amplified, Masati shares the story of a devastating workplace accident that crushed his jaw, a drowning experience in Belize that left him submerged in a cenote, and a medical emergency in Peru that nearly claimed his life. He describes leaving his body, moving through different layers of consciousness, experiencing what many call a life review, and returning with a radically different perspective on healing, aging, trauma, and human evolution.
Together, Brandi and Masati explore near-death experiences, higher consciousness, human potential, technology, time compression, physical healing, and what it means to reconnect with the deeper intelligence that shapes our lives.
Whether you're fascinated by near-death experiences, curious about consciousness, or exploring your own potential for growth and transformation, this conversation offers a thought-provoking perspective on some of life's biggest questions.
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Human Potential and Why We're Here
Brandi: Masati, what does being human mean to you?
Masati: Wow, what a great question. What does being human mean to me? Well, from the near-death experiences that I've had, Brandi, my definition of being human is very, very different probably than most definitions that you might have heard of. It's basically helping you understand what your potential is that we all have deep inside. When we're kids, we have unlimited potential. And even nowadays, as we grow up, we bury that potential. So my definition of being human is literally about how can I bring that potential to its maximum in physical form or in physical manifestation.
Brandi: Thank you for that. Everyone, today I would love to welcome to the show Masati. He is coming to us from Minneapolis, Minnesota, and I think we're going to talk about some near-death experiences today along with human potential, human evolution, and I really can't wait to dive in. I am genuinely excited, so excited to meet you, Masati. We didn't talk about this before we started recording, but I've seen you on Next Level Soul, and that is one of my favorite podcasts ever.
Masati: Oh, thank you so much.
Brandi: Yeah.
Masati: Well, welcome. Starting just off fresh, I haven't really talked to you. We haven't really prepared anything like that. So, yeah, you can ask me anything that you want to, whatever your audience wants to hear or wants solutions to.
Brandi: Yeah. Well, let's just start with who are you as a person?
Masati: Ooh, lovely. Well, now basically what I do or who I am is literally... That's an interesting question because it's like, who are you? And most people go toward what they do, what they've accomplished. But over the years, especially after having multiple near-death experiences, I realized that we're high-level beings coming into this realm. We're experiencing what it's like. And I know that sounds kind of woo-woo, but if we understand that we are high-level beings experiencing a new realm, I think a lot of people's problems would literally disappear or find solutions to. So that's all.
Brandi: What do you mean by a new realm?
Masati: New realm? Well, there's always new moments of space and time. For example, say Elon Musk wants to go to Mars, right? We're high-level beings here. We're highly intelligent on Earth to even figure out how to go to Mars. And then once we go to Mars and say we civilize Mars out there, over generations we forget that we actually came from Earth. The kids who are born on Mars forget. It's like, oh, our origin point was Earth, and we're highly intelligent beings who created that. Then we think that we are the problems of a new civilization.
So in that same realm, instead of planets, discovering new planets, or inhabiting new planets, we inhabited a new realm of how space and time would work.
Brandi: Okay. Okay.
Masati: I know those answers are out there, but we want to get to the point.
Brandi: And they're complex, I think, when you step back and really think about it. Maybe more of this will come up as you're telling your story.
Real quick, before I ask you about your near-death experiences, do you ever get tired of telling people about them?
Masati: No, not really, because it's so exciting. It literally takes me back to the moment that I could connect with my higher self or a Godhead or whatever you want to call it. So no, it's always good to go back.
And then also, it seems like when I tell my story, and this is what I love most, especially with a live audience, because I can't tell on a recording, but with live audiences, when I tell it, it's like I can take them back into that moment. And hopefully your audience can actually experience what I experienced during that time.
The Near-Death Experience That Changed Everything
Brandi: Yeah. Okay. Well, that's good to hear. I know you've been on Gaia TV and on the Next Level Soul podcast, like we mentioned before. So I would love for my listeners to go check those stories out too. But for now, can you just, taking as long as you need, walk us through what happened?
Masati: Well, I think it's really important to preface why it happened. I think that's really important because there are a lot of near-death experiences that happen, Brandi, but it's like, why? I have amazing abilities. I've worked on hundreds of thousands of client sessions and major transformations in people.
So the big question is, a lot of people have near-death experiences. Why do a few of those near-death experiences, a small percentage, get gifts, get abilities? Like Anita Moorjani, she's a famous author. She healed herself of cancer. Other people get great talents. Other people have fantastic memories come through, mathematical skills. So what's the difference between those near-death experiences and what we went through?
And the key is that in the beginning, I was a young kid, late teens, and I really wanted to know what life was really about, like a lot of people nowadays. It's like, what is life about?
People go through trying to make money. It's like, well, if I make enough money, then I'll know what life is about. But now, as we've found out, especially with the Epstein files and all that, it's like, they really didn't know what life was about, right? So wealth didn't really work out for them. Neither did success. Neither did connecting into the inner circle.
Spirituality nowadays, religions aren't really working out for people. So people are finding that real solution. And that's what I wanted. I wanted the real solution at a very young age. And I wanted it so bad, the universe really goes, "Do you really, really want to know?"
And yeah, it's like, "Yeah, I really want to know."
It's like, "Well, you don't learn it from the internet or looking through ancient texts because if we did know, the world would be very different."
So I got a firsthand experience on what it's really about with that near-death experience.
I was in a warehouse, a college job, unloading railcars back then. I remember it was a beautiful summer day, but it felt really, really different. It felt like something new was going to happen. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
I went to work unloading railcars. Inside a railcar, there are these moving walls to keep the product in place. It was stuck. So being a young kid, I offered to climb up on this railcar and just pull. As my team members were pulling this probably half-ton wall, I was pulling on top. Then all of a sudden it gave way, and it slid across inside the rails of the car.
And what stopped it, Brandi, was my jaw. It just crushed it.
And instantly I saw myself from a different perspective. I was outside of my body, kind of floating and looking at myself dangling there. And I'm going, "Gosh, that must really hurt."
And I'm thinking, "Why doesn't it hurt?"
And then that's what struck me. It's like, wait a second. Something's going on here. What am I doing here if my body is over there?
And that was the disconnect.
It was so beautiful. I didn't think, "Oh my goodness, poor me," or anything like that. I just thought, "Wow, this is amazing."
Because the brilliance of who we are beyond the physicalness... I would say that one or two percent of who we really are is manifested in physical form. But the brilliance was so amazing. The light was so bright.
I'm going, "Whoa, what is that compared to the little piece that I was in physical form?"
And I went through the tunnel of light. The tunnel of light is not... People say, science says, "Well, it's your brainstem, your optical nerve." It's really not.
I've been there.
And each layer is quite amazing. You graduate. The first layer many people go to is like, "I saw my loved ones that have crossed over." They kind of invite you.
I didn't go through those layers.
I went through the layer where it was a life review, as they call it. But it wasn't really a life review.
And this is what I want to clarify because people are so afraid of dying these days.
Brandi: Yes.
Masati: Through religions, through whatever they believe in. And it's not a life review where some angel is sitting across from you or God is sitting across from you, although if you believe that, it'll show up for you because whatever you believe in manifests.
And it's not about, "You did this right. You did this wrong. Let's tally up the score. You go either to heaven or to hell."
It's really not like that.
It's a graduation.
Basically what that is, when you go through that process, you see it from a graduate level because when you come into physical form, you forget your potential of who you are. You're kind of like a kindergartener. We're kindergartners here.
So in that phase, we see it as a PhD-level individual soul reviewing what we went through in physical form. Then we start to learn. It's like, "Oh, that's why that happened. That's why that happened."
So it's really a great learning experience for us.
I went through the process, and the cool thing was I was really conscious. I was observant of where I was, what realm I was in, and what I was doing.
Most people, kind of like when you get into a psychedelic state, you're just in the moment and you have no clue where you are. I was the observer of the moment.
So in this case, I was living my life, 22 years at the time, in maybe mere seconds, maybe a minute.
Masati: And I'm going, how did I live every moment of my life? And it wasn't fast-forwarded. It wasn't anything like that. It was just like, how did I live my life of 22 years in maybe a second or two? And that was the initial moment that I understood that time could compress and expand.
And this is how I help people. I don't help people heal themselves the way most people do. I literally edit space and time. And I know it sounds kind of crazy, but you can ask me anything about how that works or how I help transform people.
Brandi: I don't think that sounds crazy at all. And I am so curious about how to do that.
Masati: Yes. Well, definitely.
Okay. So that was the first near-death experience. And then in that moment, it's like, you understand, it's like, gosh, I want to stay here forever, but I can go back too.
You hear this voice, and to this day, I still don't know who that voice is. But it's like, as soon as you go, you can go back. Because time is so fast there. As soon as you think of something, it gets created for you.
So as soon as you go, you can go back.
Boom. I was back in my body. I fell to the floor. Then I don't know how I got to the hospital, but I woke up with my jaws wired shut. So I had no clue how I got to the hospital, what they did with surgery, or anything like that. But for three or four months, maybe longer, my jaws were wired shut, and I had to eat food through a straw.
But it was the most beautiful experience. It was like, wow, this is so cool. I get to be in physical form. I get to enjoy time and space.
What Happens After a Near-Death Experience
Brandi: Yeah. Okay. So I've heard some people say that after they've had a near-death experience, they just long to be where they had been. Did you experience that, or was it just complete gratitude for life?
Masati: It was complete gratitude, and I did long to go back because in this reality, things just don't make sense because we don't live off first principles.
Just explain love. Everybody wants love, but how do you define love? Most people have defined love through, "I have to sacrifice myself to be loved." Or, "I have to be abused to be loved because the hand that feeds you also abuses you."
All these definitions that we've learned.
But in that realm, love is just love. There's just one definition of love, not millions here.
So everything just makes sense there. And I think that's why a lot of people long to go back. It's like, I want to go back where things make sense because nothing really makes sense here. There's so many different opinions.
Even in science nowadays, nobody believes in the science because there are so many different opposing views. Even the scientists can't agree on what's going on. How are we going to figure that out, right?
Over there, science is just straight-out science. You just know it.
So that's why, and yes, I did want to go back there, but not to commit suicide or do something stupid.
Although I help a lot of people who have gone through near-death experiences that do want to commit suicide and stuff like that because that side is more graceful there.
But what I did was, okay, that was my being there. How do I bring it down here?
So that's what I was asking. It's just like, I want to really go back to learn the concepts and bring them over here.
And this is the same concept as Nikola Tesla or a lot of those great inventors. They went to another altered state. Obviously, he went through meditation or whatever. He went to another state, saw his inventions in clarity, and then goes, how do I bring that here?
Well, I didn't bring down an invention. I brought down the concept or the construct on the rules of how to have a fantastic life.
Brandi: Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Were you able to apply those concepts to your life right away, or was there a big learning curve?
Masati: Yeah, it was a big learning curve. In fact, I'm glad that you asked.
It took me a while. My abilities did amp up then. I was always intuitive, a lot like you are. No offense, but I just read people.
So when I see people, and this is after my second near-death experience, I see what some people call the Akashic Records. I literally see your algorithms.
Kind of like AI. If you give a paragraph of what you wrote to AI, it'll feed you back what you're like.
Brandi: Yeah. That's true. It does. It's kind of crazy, right?
Masati: And it's not like they're psychic or all that stuff. They see algorithms, patterns in how you put words together linearly. That's all it is.
So in this case, I see your frequency algorithm. I don't need you to give me a paragraph or your name or your birthday or anything like that. I just literally go, oh, that's you. And I see your algorithm.
I can tell you your patterns and habits and what's holding you back.
So I did get abilities. I could see what would happen in the future for people, things of that nature.
But during that time, I got highly successful. Lived in a few-million-dollar house, had the yacht and stuff like that. But I wasn't really happy.
It's like, gosh, what gives? I did all that work. I sacrificed myself for all that work. Why am I not happy?
And I wanted to know the answer so badly again that the universe answered.
In this case, we were on a cruise, and we went out on a journey in Belize, inner tubing through the jungle, through the rivers. And lo and behold, the setup was so perfect for a near-death experience.
They ran out of life jackets.
And I was a strong swimmer, so I go, well, I can go. I've got an inner tube to hold onto, and it's a river. I've swum in oceans and lakes, so I didn't worry about that.
But as we got into the river, the jungle became quiet. It was windy. You could hear bird noises and all that. But when we got into the river, it was just dead silent.
Just like a movie scene where everything goes quiet.
And I'm going, wow, that's really quiet. What the hell happened?
Brandi: Yeah. Eerie.
Masati: Eerie, exactly.
I didn't know what was happening. We had my kids there at the time, so I made sure that their life jackets were on really, really tight for some reason. I don't know why. I had no clue.
Then we got into the river, and the guide goes, well, you want to keep your legs interlocked so all the inner tubes stay together because you might get pulled into other tributaries and so on.
So as soon as we stepped in and got into the river, I had to unlock my legs for some stupid reason.
Crazy thing.
One of the inner tubes and me went off in another direction. They went the safe way. We went down into a cenote, basically a hole in the river that you just get sucked into, and then the water falls.
We couldn't stop it.
So I pushed my kids out of the way, and then I got sucked into the cenote.
That was my second near-death experience, where I couldn't swim back out because the water... Think of a tunnel this big with water just pouring into it. There was just no way in hell I could swim back up.
I was holding on and holding on. Then eventually it's like, I can't hold my breath that long.
That's where I said, well, I guess this is it again.
And I was kind of excited.
I was like, damn, I get to go back.
I said goodbye to my loved ones and everybody. I watched my body float down, and it just got dark.
Then as it left, as I couldn't see it anymore, I went through the tunnel of light. I went through the water, and I could feel it, but I didn't have a body.
Then I went into that beautiful space again.
In this case, I went through the layers. There's about 12 or 13 layers. I went through them onto the other side.
And on the other side, you're not supposed to come back.
It's kind of like seeing the back end of how things work.
So I understood how time and space work. I understood the principles of how this reality gets created.
It's like a graduate level.
At that level, you have form to a certain level. You have your physical identity. But then you go to a higher level, and this is where everything disappears.
You have no form. You have no physical form at all. You have no identity of being human.
You just are pure presence or an enlightened spirit.
At that level, it's like, wow.
And you are everything that you could be at once.
I don't know. Wow, this is so beautiful.
There's no time and no space. It's just stillness.
Time doesn't pass by because you're so present. You know how you're so present that you don't notice time passing by? That's the closest I can say.
Over there, you're just like that for maybe a million years, and you're just going, wow, it's so beautiful.
At that level, the amount of love that you experience, the amount of joy or anything else that you want to experience, it's so magnified and so beautiful.
It's just amazing.
But it also gave me access to what I call the beautiful blue space.
I went into a realm where it's just beautifully blue.
Masati: And I think in scriptures, they actually talk about that. But in that space, I had access to any information, like anything in the past, anything in the present, anything in the future, I had access to.
And somehow, when I came back, I'm still connected to that knowledge. But at some level, I think somebody loves me up there because I was found. It's just like you snap out of it, and then I was found like 100 yards upriver from where I got drowned because I could still see the energy of getting stuck into the thing.
Brandi: Yeah.
Masati: I'm going, how did I get upriver? How did that happen?
And I wasn't choking or anything like that. I was bloody. My fingernails, because I had tried to crawl up. But other than that, I was just feeling really euphoric, and I'm going, how the heaven did I get here?
And I felt probably literally an immense love going, "Here you go, buddy. Let me help you."
I don't know who that was or what that was, but it's like you could feel God's hand just pop you down. It's like, okay, thank you.
A Second Near-Death Experience and Accessing Higher Consciousness
Brandi: Yeah. Okay. How old were you when the second one happened?
Masati: In my mid-40s.
Brandi: Okay. So about 20 years in between the first and second one?
Masati: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And this is where it took me... That was when I got really, really into the dark nights of the soul because I couldn't comprehend why we're living in such a backward society here.
I know we've got advanced technology and stuff like that, but why are humans so... Because humans haven't really evolved like nature has.
Brandi: Yeah.
Masati: We're literally not prehistoric, but we haven't evolved our consciousness for a long time. We really haven't.
Our technology has risen, and technology is not a bunch of smart guys that are allowed to try and go, "Oh, let's do this." Technology comes down with the consciousness. Smart people connect to that consciousness, just like I said, Tesla. It's like, oh, that technology. And they bring that down.
But they haven't figured out a way to bring down the evolution for humans, if that makes sense for you.
They brought out the technology of the day, but not the evolved humans to use that technology.
Brandi: Yeah, that does make sense to me.
Human Evolution, Technology, and Consciousness
Brandi Fleck: Let me just ask you this before we move on to the third experience. Do you think we're in the dark ages?
Masati: Yeah, I did. Nothing is really logical here. Again, we have great technology, but they call it smart technology. But think of it. Smart technology is like you're getting fried. You've got all this blue light coming at you.
Smart technology shouldn't kill the user. Smart technology shouldn't replace the user because that's what the technology is there for: you, not to be replaced.
And that's what technology, and that's what society as a whole... We basically have evolved enough to replace ourselves.
That's not the way it should work.
We should have technologies to keep evolving us so they can do the mundane things, and then we evolve to the higher potential of who we are and access new realms, new ideas, new concepts, new technologies that don't destroy the Earth that we're on.
Nature doesn't work that way. Nature doesn't destroy or sacrifice to evolve. Humans do.
Backwards.
Brandi: Gotcha. We're so disconnected from nature.
Masati: Yes.
Brandi: Yeah. When you say that, well, let me ask it this way. Based on what you saw in your near-death experiences about human potential, what do you think we have the potential to evolve to?
Masati: Gosh, the same patterning as nature.
For example, nature. People think of, let's say, the lion and the gazelle. In that situation, sure, one's predator, one's prey. But as the lion becomes better at hunting, the gazelle gets better at camouflaging and running faster.
So in those situations, competition and everything like that in nature evolves the whole system, right? Everything evolves.
And that's why nature is like... It's been happening for billions of years, and it just keeps getting better and better.
But look at us. We create things, and then we destroy the planet so much that basically we kill ourselves, not the planet, so to speak. Our pollution, everything else. We get to a point where we go extinct, and then nature just recovers and moves along its way.
So we moved away from the science of the universe over into human science. And I think that's the biggest reason.
Brandi: Okay. So we have the potential to kind of follow nature's lead and create without destruction.
Masati: Yes. And if we access the knowledge of the science of how nature has evolved... Again, if we ran human science today, I mean, we've destroyed pretty much a lot of things in the past, gosh, not even thousand of years. Technology, industrial age, and all that stuff was like two, three, four hundred years ago.
So in four or five hundred years, look how much we've devolved as far as not improving our ecology or our psyche or our mental state. We've devolved.
I mean, look at technology, medicine, and all that. So much advanced, but how many people are suffering, committing suicide, not happy? So obviously we're going awry, right? That's not reaching our human potential. That's slowing us down.
What I'm saying is nature gave us a clue. Let's tap into that clue and ride the wave of nature, and then we can go into higher realms.
And that's the potential of what we have: manufacturing, love, creating societies. It doesn't have to be a destructive force. It could be an expansive force for humanity.
Brandi: Yeah. I agree with you that it can definitely be an expansive force. And I don't think that we have to always suffer, but I do want to bring an example of, say, forest fires up, right? The forest burns in a natural cycle of nature. So you could say there's destruction there, and then more diversity, more life pops up after the fact. How do we reconcile that with what you're saying here?
Masati: Yeah, well, like a forest fire or why do lions eat? Why is there prey and predator? Well, it pushes us because we need pushing us or strengthening us, right? We need that to go forward. It allows us to grow.
So there is suffering in a way. There is sacrifice in a way. But in nature, we sacrifice what doesn't evolve us anymore.
There's the key.
Brandi: Yeah.
Masati: What we do as humans, because of free will, and that's the key, free will, is we get to choose what we move forward into our future.
And look from generation to generation. I mean, gosh, your parents had heart issues, diseases, and so on like that. And then three generations down, the kids suffer the same thing.
That's crazy biology.
In nature, if a species suffers a disease, a virus, or something, the next generation is already equipped so that virus does not destroy them. They get stronger from that.
So yeah, they're suffering. A forest fire, sure, it's a way of cleansing what didn't work and then what did work, and then it evolves next to a higher level.
So in that case, yes, there's suffering. Obviously, animals die and so on like that. But the genome of that species is guaranteed to evolve to the next level.
So you did sacrifice. Those animals did sacrifice, the ones that died in forest fires. But again, their offspring benefited from it.
In humans, we sacrifice, and then we tell our offspring that you have to go through the same suffering as we did. And it becomes a cyclical pattern. We suffer from the same wars, the same issues that we had a hundred years ago. It's just more.
I mean, when Spain, back in the 1800s, had their dominant currency, they went through wars. They went through the exact same thing that America is facing now.
Brandi: Yeah.
Masati: You know what I mean? So nature doesn't cycle. It doesn't come back full circle. Nature spirals upward.
Brandi: Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Masati: Over and over and over. That's just dumb.
Brandi: Just dumb. Yeah, I totally see what you're saying. So we're choosing things, actively choosing things, that devolve us as opposed to just riding the wave, the spiral upward.
Masati: Yeah, we should learn from the past, see what worked, see what didn't, and then move on.
When we have kids, what do we do when we raise kids? We basically go, okay, I did it this way, so you have to do it this way.
Instead of telling your kids, yeah, I messed up here. This is what I did wrong, and maybe you could do better. And we evolve.
I mean, that's how I teach my kids. My kids don't make the same mistakes as I did, which is…
Physical Healing After a Near-Death Experience
Brandi: Yeah, that is nice. Okay, well, thank you for that explanation. And now do you feel like going into your third NDE?
Masati: Yeah. The third... So these experiences actually allowed me to quantum leap consciousness or intelligence.
So basically, if I had to go through linear, it would probably take me lifetimes to learn what I did. But what I did, basically, is say you're on this linear path, and the sidewalk's moving. Well, let's put it this way, a moving sidewalk at airports, right? It keeps going. That's basically time. Think of it this way.
So what I did was, basically, time is moving for me, but then you do a quantum leap or you have a death experience. You jump out of time and space. Time moves by. Consciousness moves by, so to speak. But you're accessing a lot of intelligence at a higher level.
So you go to a higher level, and you bring that back down into a higher form.
Does that make sense to you?
Brandi: I think it does, yeah.
Masati: Yeah. So you quantum leap time, basically. So you basically compress time.
So in a short period of time, instead of going linearly, I went upward like a parabolic. I went upward, grabbed the consciousness up there, and then came back down with it.
Brandi: Okay.
Masati: Instead of learning linear time here, which would expand out, I mean, that's a hell of a long time to learn. I just went out, grabbed it, brought it back down.
Brandi: Yeah, that does make sense.
Masati: Yeah. So the first near-death was literally like an apprentice level, understanding how the science works.
The second was more of a journeyman, and this is where I, again, held a lot of sessions, a lot of transformations, really understanding how the science works.
The third near-death was, I was in Peru, and that was more of a mastery level, just owning...
Owning what I do, my gifts that I teach to people. I was in Peru. We were hiking. It was around COVID time, so I probably had COVID. I didn't take the vaccine or anything, but it's almost the same getting COVID.
But anyway, I was so dehydrated. All my minerals were so low at the time, and I didn't know it at the time. We were sitting at a pizza restaurant in Cusco. It was my favorite. It's a really beautiful city there. I don't know if you've had a chance, but it was really nice.
Our hotel was like five minutes away. It took me an hour to get from the restaurant to the hotel because I had to sit down. I couldn't move, really.
Finally, I went to the hotel, and my temperature dropped. It was in the low 90s. They called the ambulance, and they finally came. Basically, I went to the hospital, and I was almost pronounced dead, so to speak.
They did an MRI and a brain scan, and it was just like mush, like somebody had died.
At the time, my son was there, and he was literally trying to hold me down. I just saw myself floating up above, and I could see my son just crying there.
Then I just blacked out, and it was just a beautiful space again, like an arrival space. Everything was just golden light, and everything was just beautiful.
Later on, I guess they had pumped me full of minerals and all this stuff, and I came back. They checked my brain scan again because they couldn't believe the difference. They checked my brain scan, and it was like a pristine brain structure of, say, a 25-year-old. And I was like 50-something. No, 60-something at the time.
So I think there I started to restructure my body. So I aged younger. It took me a while, but literally I changed how I aged on that near-death. So physically creating certain differences here.
Brandi: Consciously, or did it just happen?
Masati: What, the death or?
Brandi: The changing your body.
Masati: Oh, it just happened. Mental clarity, blood work, all those things over the years got younger and younger and younger, even to this day. I'm 65 years old, and a lot of people don't say I look 65. Blood work, all those things. I don't have the same diseases as my family or anything like that. I don't take any medications or all those things that people do at 65.
And that's what I teach people. That's what I was telling you earlier. I solve problems that fortune and fame don't give you.
Brandi: Yeah. Wow. When did you realize that physical shift had happened? What was the moment?
Masati: It wasn't really a moment. It was a transition. It took me a year.
If you saw my before and after pictures over like 12 years, I look a lot younger than I did 15 years ago. I was just ragged-looking and stuff like that. No plastic surgeries or nothing like that, but just literally transitioning. A lot of people do that with the work that I do.
But it was more of a transition. It was like hanging out with the kids, going snowboarding, going playing volleyball, and I'm going, damn. I'm just as vital as my 30-year-old son. Obviously, he's a bit more, but I can keep up with him. I'm not hobbling or anything like that.
So I'm going, damn, that feels good. Damn. It's just a knowing. And again, I don't take any medications or anything like that.
Brandi: Yeah. I mean, it sounds like this was miraculous, but do you do any kind of biohacking?
Masati: Yeah. This is what's really cool. What I do is not a replacement of anything out there, whether it's Tony Robbins or Joe Dispenza or biohacking or whatever medicine that's out there. What I do is like, let's get rid of the distortions that created whatever you have in the first place.
Brandi: Okay.
Masati: And if you do biohacking, then it works much better for you. But if you're running a pattern of abusing yourself, for example, and you try to do a peptide stack or whatever, it just doesn't work out. You know what I mean?
Brandi: Yeah.
Masati: And the same thing with wealth. If you're abusing yourself or if you're sacrificing yourself to create the wealth, and this is a lot of my clients, they have massive amounts of wealth, but they come to me and say, "Mas, I still feel hollow inside more than ever. I feel lonely. I can't connect."
It's like, well, the patterns that you're running.
So what I do is I fix the foundation of who they are, and then a peptide stack that's fantastic for healing or whatever else, supplements and all that. Obviously, you've got to eat right. You can't eat just crappy food, which is really sad in the U.S.
But yeah, I just supplement. I just help people. I just help build a better human, basically. And when you're optimized, things that you do are optimized.
Brandi: So that makes sense.
Masati: Yeah. And so I'm not against religion or biohacking or whatever else people do, or even psychedelics. But I know for sure that they don't have to do as much of it, and they get sustained benefits from it rather than always cycling and always cycling.
Healing the Past Through Time Compression
Brandi: Yeah. Okay, so I'm hearing you say that there is a time compression piece to this. There's also an expanded consciousness piece, and there's a getting rid of distortions piece in order to optimize things. Is there anything else that's part of the process of reaching our potential?
Masati: Well, that's just what you just talked about. That's the first step of noticing that you have potential because most people carry all this baggage with them, and they build better and bigger engines. They try to push harder. They try to grind harder. And that's what today's society is.
So basically what you talked about is like, no, the way nature does it, and I copy nature's pattern, natural intelligence. That is like, wait a second. You're built really well. Your design has been improved over 14 billion years, but let's get rid of the stuff that isn't you.
So those things we get rid of, and then you optimize yourself. Say that you wanted to run a marathon, but you didn't eat right. You ate junk food. You sat on a couch and watched TV. So basically that's most people.
So what I do is, let's optimize you first. And once you get optimized, then we can get into the potential of it.
Getting rid of the baggage for people, it's actually pretty easy for us. Pushing people into their potential, because it's a new world out there, new possibilities, that's really exciting, where you can expand time, where you can go into altered states, whether you use psychedelics or not, doesn't matter. You can go into altered states and bring down new technologies, new concepts of self, new ways of aging, all that.
Brandi: I don't know how to answer that question, right? I think so. So the first step is basically awareness and being able to see what you need to strip away so that you can then start expanding.
Masati: Exactly. Most people keep the junk that they hold onto, the stuff that they're not, and then add more like wealth or a good diet or exercise, whatever it is, religions or whatever. And it doesn't really help.
So what I do is, again, strip all of it away. And the way we do it is literally starting to help you understand. The same near-death experience that I went through separated me from the limited identity of who I was.
So basically what I do is, you don't have to have a near-death. What I do is like, okay, let's separate you and recreate the identity of who you really are. The closest thing to that is when you're a kid. You feel that potential that you have.
So it's like, let's pull you from that space. Then you get to see all the burdens that you're holding onto, and it makes it easier for that person to let go of their diseases, their cancers, and all those things that people heal from.
It's very different than, well, you need more of this and you need more of this.
Brandi: That's really key. Yeah. Gosh, I'm trying to think of where to go next here. Let's just talk about compressing and expanding time, if that's okay with you. I would love to know more of the mechanics of how you even do that.
Masati: Sure. All right. So say that something happened to you when you were like 12 or 13, whatever it is, and it stunted your growth, for example. That makes sense? And I'm just tapping into the audience that would be listening to this.
What they hold onto is their identity of the 12-year-old. As they grow into their 20s and 30s and 40s, that hurt 12-year-old is still within them.
So what we do is literally go, okay, I don't heal your mental state. I don't do positive affirmations or anything like that. What I do is like, I disconnect you from this moment of who you are. Say you're 20 or 25, 30, whatever. It doesn't matter. You're this age.
Let's take you back to this version of who you were at 12 years old, and you see yourself. Again, it's not a mental state. I literally take you back into that moment. You see what happened. Obviously, you can't change what happened because it's already happened in time, but you can be an observer of what happened, and then you start to heal yourself at 12 years old.
So that's basically kind of like stopping time for you. You heal yourself there, and it creates a domino effect. You heal yourself at 12, and then it creates a domino effect.
As you look back in your history, it's amazing how people see things very, very differently. Does that make sense for you? Because we healed you at this level.
So it's basically disconnecting you from time, taking you back, and you relive that 12-year-old the way it should have been. And it creates a domino effect.
So say something happened that affected you. Say you're 40, and then something happened to you at 30 because of whatever happened to you at 12. You think back to it, and it's not that you don't have a recollection of what happened to you, but you see it very differently.
Everything in your past is rewritten.
That makes sense.
Compressing Time to Expand Awareness
Masati: So that's disorienting time for people, or just latching away from time.
Compressing time, a lot of times, people are type A behavior types. They're always going forward in time. They're always thinking ahead. They can't stay in their body. They're always way too busy. They're all over the place, for example.
So in that case, they're running multiple versions of themselves, or they're trying to create multiple timelines at once. But you can't. You're in linear time.
So what we do there is literally pull you in and compress time for you, where you're just put in the present moment.
And this is where people, especially kids who suffer from ADD, ADHD, or even extreme people—we work a lot with military people with severe PTSD and so on—they just start to go, "Whoa, it feels really cool here."
So you can compress time. You can expand time.
People say somebody died when they were young, and they were still stuck in that moment. And although they're 50, they still live from that moment.
So you dislodge them from that time, and then you can expand time. They literally grow 20, 30 years in a very short time.
That makes sense.
And then they're present again.
Brandi: Yeah.
Masati: So that's healing.
The other way of compressing and expanding time is getting people into altered states, like psychedelic journeys. This is where an Elon Musk type that wants to go out there and see the next big thing, expanding time for you so you can go forward into time and all that. We do that as well.
Brandi: Okay. I was going to ask, is the healing journey part of it in an altered state just through meditation or hypnosis?
Masati: It's not hypnosis, but I do get you into an altered state. What I do goes beyond the concepts of the mind.
And I don't know the exact mechanics of how I do that with you, but people do feel like they're in an altered state.
Brandi: Yeah. Okay.
Masati: There's a mechanism that's there.
It's like you have your timeless self creating your time-bound self, if that makes sense. Or you have your spirit rendering your physical self.
So what I do is I work between the bridge layer, so there's that communication.
Another way of putting it: there was an intelligence that created you before you had a single cell or before you even had a brain. There was an intelligence that put you together.
So basically, I help you connect back to that intelligence and edit you there.
Brandi: Okay. Oh my gosh. I want to know so much more.
I definitely want to be respectful of your time too. And we're going to give you a chance to talk about where people can find you.
But just for now, is there anything I didn't ask you that you feel is important to share?
Masati: Well, I guess the biggest thing is just tapping into your audience.
God's not mean to you.
God's not mean to you. You didn't have a bad hand given to you or anything like that because a lot of people go, "Why is this happening to me?"
If you start to understand the tools that you've been given already and remember, you'd be amazed at how fast you can transform your life from any situation.
Also, a lot of people think that they're broken and they have to fix themselves. They're really not.
You just have to remember that you were never broken. You just forgot who you were.
It's really, really important.
And so if you run from that platform, and if you do nothing else with me, that's totally fine, but if you run from that platform—that you're never broken, you just have to get rid of the stuff that makes you think you're broken—your life will be really fantastic.
Brandi: Okay. Thank you so much for that.
Where can people find you and the work you're doing?
Masati: The best place is if you go to M-A-S-A-T-I, Masati.live. That's my YouTube channel.
And gosh, I think there are hundreds and hundreds of videos. I do a free show, Masati, on Sunday. It's a live show. I scan people. I can tell you what's going on with you. I don't need to know your name or all your credentials or anything like that.
So I think that's a great way. Again, it's free for you. It's live for you as well. And there are so many topics that I cover in that.
Otherwise, you can go to thexicode.com. The XI stands for Exponential Intelligence. Thexicode.com.
And gosh, if you sign up for the newsletter, I think you get a HyperMeditation that literally will help you shift in a very short period of time for free.
And there are many, many programs there for you.
Brandi: Fantastic. All of those links will be in the show notes and in the description of the video.
So there you have it, everyone.
And Masati, thank you so much for coming on the show today. I really appreciate it.
Masati: Well, thank you so much.
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