EPISODE 130 | Threats to the Rule of Law as a Check on Power with Law Professor, Em Wright
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About Episode 130
Emerson Wright—law professor, legal realist, and co-host of the Talking Legal Ed podcast—returns to the show with a hard-hitting conversation on the rule of law, trans rights, and how the current U.S. administration is reshaping the legal landscape.
Brandi and Emerson unpack the chilling realities of today’s political and legal climate, from targeted executive orders and academic freedom under threat to the quiet erosion of civil liberties and legal protections. They explore how lawyers actually work behind the scenes to uphold society—and why now more than ever, everyday citizens need to pay attention and take action.
Also feel free to check out Em’s other conversations on Human Amplified:
Read: Inside a Changing Legal System: Will It Take Societal Collapse?
Listen: What’s Next for Our Justice System REVEALED with Law Professor, Em Wright
We talk about:
03:17 – Who Emerson is and what’s changed since the last episode
04:34 – Why trans folks are being more discreet and the personal risks Emerson faces
07:21 – The #1 thing allies can do right now
09:00 – Is society collapsing or just changing?
11:15 – What a crumbling rule of law looks like in real time
15:05 – Why top law firms are giving in—and who’s standing up
19:38 – The real role of lawyers beyond what we see on TV
25:03 – Why the rule of law prevents violence and chaos
31:08 – A terrifying example of legal power overreach: deportation without accountability
36:13 – The Wisconsin Supreme Court win and what it really means
39:02 – Signs of hope, protest, and political courage
44:10 – How to talk to your representatives—especially when they’re not listening
Episode 130 is for You If...
You find yourself asking questions such as:
Is the rule of law collapsing in the United States?
What do lawyers really do—and why does it matter?
How can citizens protect democracy when their legal system feels under attack?
What happens when law firms choose profit over principle?
Why is public pressure still one of our most powerful tools?
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CREDITS: Original intro and outro music by Ryan Sauls. Episode creation and graphics by Brandi Fleck. Editing by Natasha Rivera. Sound effects from zapslat.com. Bio and photos provided by Em Wright.
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